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	<title>Comments on: Art of the Genre: The Age of Perfect Creation</title>
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	<description>Adventures in Fantasy Literature</description>
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		<title>By: Scott Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.blackgate.com/2012/01/25/art-of-the-genre-the-age-of-perfect-creation/comment-page-2/#comment-12605</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 20:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike: If I'm right or wrong doesn't matter, all that matters is that my fellow Black Gate bloggers take the time to read my blog, so it looks like I WIN! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike: If I&#8217;m right or wrong doesn&#8217;t matter, all that matters is that my fellow Black Gate bloggers take the time to read my blog, so it looks like I WIN! <img src='http://www.blackgate.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mike Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 20:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all do respect to my fellow &lt;i&gt;Black Gate&lt;/i&gt; blogger ... while I too have noted that during some long writing careers there does seem to be a point where the works produced become less interesting ... you're making quite an unscientific leap, backed only by your own subjective judgements on various books, in trying to tie the arc of a writer's career directly to the biological process of aging. The Goodkind quote is referring to accumulated experience, not the biological process of growing old.

Consider this: David Eddings' entire career as a fantastist lasted from when he was 51 until his death at 77.


I think the much more likely explanation is that each writer only has so many extraordinary book ideas in them &#8212; no human being can be an infinite fountain of genius 24/7 &#8212; and a professional writer with a long career will be lucky enough, or unlucky enough, to have a chance to get all those extraordinary ideas out on paper while he or she still has some life left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all do respect to my fellow <i>Black Gate</i> blogger &#8230; while I too have noted that during some long writing careers there does seem to be a point where the works produced become less interesting &#8230; you&#8217;re making quite an unscientific leap, backed only by your own subjective judgements on various books, in trying to tie the arc of a writer&#8217;s career directly to the biological process of aging. The Goodkind quote is referring to accumulated experience, not the biological process of growing old.</p>
<p>Consider this: David Eddings&#8217; entire career as a fantastist lasted from when he was 51 until his death at 77.</p>
<p>I think the much more likely explanation is that each writer only has so many extraordinary book ideas in them &#8212; no human being can be an infinite fountain of genius 24/7 &#8212; and a professional writer with a long career will be lucky enough, or unlucky enough, to have a chance to get all those extraordinary ideas out on paper while he or she still has some life left.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.blackgate.com/2012/01/25/art-of-the-genre-the-age-of-perfect-creation/comment-page-2/#comment-12560</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 03:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RadiantAbyss: Well, I survived the day so I'm feeling pretty good! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RadiantAbyss: Well, I survived the day so I&#8217;m feeling pretty good! <img src='http://www.blackgate.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Scott Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.blackgate.com/2012/01/25/art-of-the-genre-the-age-of-perfect-creation/comment-page-2/#comment-12559</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 03:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah: Even more interesting that different types of writers would have different lifespans... I'm not sure why that is...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah: Even more interesting that different types of writers would have different lifespans&#8230; I&#8217;m not sure why that is&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.blackgate.com/2012/01/25/art-of-the-genre-the-age-of-perfect-creation/comment-page-1/#comment-12558</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 03:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lugo: Nice points and thanks for the link.  I believe to pushes toward my point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lugo: Nice points and thanks for the link.  I believe to pushes toward my point.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Avery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Avery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 03:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I could remember where I saw a study on life expectancy for writers of major literary forms. Poets have a life expectancy of 62 years, playwrights 64, and novelists 66, as I recall. When I set aside poetry to return to fiction, I liked wisecracking that I'd increased my life expectancy by four years. But if my creativity as a novelist collapses while I'm in my 50s, I might as well switch back, since poets' primes tend to run very late. (The possibility that I might add over a decade to my life expectancy by ceasing to write altogether is not worth considering. I tried giving up, but it didn't work out, so I gave up giving up.)

If that study has any validity, it may just be that writers (sedentary, isolated, financially unsound creatures in many cases) tend not to live that long past the years you've identified as their primes. It's hard to keep writing at the top of your game after you've died.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I could remember where I saw a study on life expectancy for writers of major literary forms. Poets have a life expectancy of 62 years, playwrights 64, and novelists 66, as I recall. When I set aside poetry to return to fiction, I liked wisecracking that I&#8217;d increased my life expectancy by four years. But if my creativity as a novelist collapses while I&#8217;m in my 50s, I might as well switch back, since poets&#8217; primes tend to run very late. (The possibility that I might add over a decade to my life expectancy by ceasing to write altogether is not worth considering. I tried giving up, but it didn&#8217;t work out, so I gave up giving up.)</p>
<p>If that study has any validity, it may just be that writers (sedentary, isolated, financially unsound creatures in many cases) tend not to live that long past the years you&#8217;ve identified as their primes. It&#8217;s hard to keep writing at the top of your game after you&#8217;ve died.</p>
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		<title>By: Lugo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An example from political science!

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/01/why-john-j-mearsheimer-is-right-about-some-things/8839/?single_page=true

"The best grand theories tend to be written no earlier than middle age, when the writer has life experience and mistakes behind him to draw upon. Morgenthau’s 1948 classic, Politics Among Nations, was published when he was 44, Fukuyama’s The End of History was published as a book when he was 40, and Huntington’s Clash of Civilizations as a book when he was 69. Mearsheimer began writing The Tragedy of Great Power Politics when he was in his mid-40s, after working on it for a decade. Published just before 9/11, the book intimates the need for America to avoid strategic distractions and concentrate on confronting China."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An example from political science!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/01/why-john-j-mearsheimer-is-right-about-some-things/8839/?single_page=true" rel="nofollow">http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/01/why-john-j-mearsheimer-is-right-about-some-things/8839/?single_page=true</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The best grand theories tend to be written no earlier than middle age, when the writer has life experience and mistakes behind him to draw upon. Morgenthau’s 1948 classic, Politics Among Nations, was published when he was 44, Fukuyama’s The End of History was published as a book when he was 40, and Huntington’s Clash of Civilizations as a book when he was 69. Mearsheimer began writing The Tragedy of Great Power Politics when he was in his mid-40s, after working on it for a decade. Published just before 9/11, the book intimates the need for America to avoid strategic distractions and concentrate on confronting China.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: RadiantAbyss</title>
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		<dc:creator>RadiantAbyss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 20:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best thread ever!

The root of this evil is Metaphysical.

My Ultima Thule, my Holy Graal, my Golden City Far, my souls obsession...

I am taken aback however that so many of the people here are just now looking at the fact that the cycle of life/death can be applied to anything within that macro-cycle.

Yes a souls creativity will have a 'life/death cycle.'

There can likely be found an average age of 'death' for ones 'creativity.'

Just like anything.

Lets all direct this wonderfully morbid, grim, and dark, ( maybe brooding too! What joy! ) energy into the 'life of our work.'

Hurry you could 'die' reading this...In many ways!

But know that in some ways you are already dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best thread ever!</p>
<p>The root of this evil is Metaphysical.</p>
<p>My Ultima Thule, my Holy Graal, my Golden City Far, my souls obsession&#8230;</p>
<p>I am taken aback however that so many of the people here are just now looking at the fact that the cycle of life/death can be applied to anything within that macro-cycle.</p>
<p>Yes a souls creativity will have a &#8216;life/death cycle.&#8217;</p>
<p>There can likely be found an average age of &#8216;death&#8217; for ones &#8216;creativity.&#8217;</p>
<p>Just like anything.</p>
<p>Lets all direct this wonderfully morbid, grim, and dark, ( maybe brooding too! What joy! ) energy into the &#8216;life of our work.&#8217;</p>
<p>Hurry you could &#8216;die&#8217; reading this&#8230;In many ways!</p>
<p>But know that in some ways you are already dead.</p>
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		<title>By: Lugo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 18:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;some will crumble and fade in the face of diversity,&lt;/i&gt;

That's what happens when old authors get knocked off their bikes by "happy slapping" diverse thugs? =)

(see http://voxday.blogspot.com/2012/01/sic-semper-pusillus.html )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>some will crumble and fade in the face of diversity,</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s what happens when old authors get knocked off their bikes by &#8220;happy slapping&#8221; diverse thugs? =)</p>
<p>(see <a href="http://voxday.blogspot.com/2012/01/sic-semper-pusillus.html" rel="nofollow">http://voxday.blogspot.com/2012/01/sic-semper-pusillus.html</a> )</p>
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		<title>By: Lugo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 18:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;lthough Dragons was worse than Crows. If you’ve ever read Colleen McCullough’s Masters of Rome series, it falls right off a cliff with the fourth book.&lt;/i&gt;

Nah. Caesar, October Horse and Antony and Cleopatra are all worth reading. The main problem with the last one is that Augustus is a less attractive personality than Caesar, who in turn is less interesting than Sulla and Marius. But none of that is the author's fault, though she could perhaps be accused of liking Caesar a little too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>lthough Dragons was worse than Crows. If you’ve ever read Colleen McCullough’s Masters of Rome series, it falls right off a cliff with the fourth book.</i></p>
<p>Nah. Caesar, October Horse and Antony and Cleopatra are all worth reading. The main problem with the last one is that Augustus is a less attractive personality than Caesar, who in turn is less interesting than Sulla and Marius. But none of that is the author&#8217;s fault, though she could perhaps be accused of liking Caesar a little too much.</p>
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