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	<title>Comments on: Tolkien’s Nobel Snub</title>
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		<title>By: Brian Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 16:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Love that quote, David.

Matthew: I agree, and as I too found the comments on the other nominees more troubling. Also, the very fact that the Guardian led with Tolkien instead of the other authors is a telling sign of his enormous continued influence.

JR: Let me clarify. By realism, I mean novels that are concerned with the events of here and now, of our world. Not the structure or style, but the content, which at that time was predominately focused on individual psychological complexity, explicit social references, etc.

I would say that Tolkien&#039;s novel uses some realist elements to ground the reader in the familiar (ie. the hobbits), and then opens up new (or old, depending on your viewpoint) vistas by showing us unfamiliar cultures (or familiar as distant echoes) and using archaic prose. And personally, I think Tolkien&#039;s work shares more in common with older sources (though he did employ modern techniques when writing LOTR), but that&#039;s just my opinion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love that quote, David.</p>
<p>Matthew: I agree, and as I too found the comments on the other nominees more troubling. Also, the very fact that the Guardian led with Tolkien instead of the other authors is a telling sign of his enormous continued influence.</p>
<p>JR: Let me clarify. By realism, I mean novels that are concerned with the events of here and now, of our world. Not the structure or style, but the content, which at that time was predominately focused on individual psychological complexity, explicit social references, etc.</p>
<p>I would say that Tolkien&#8217;s novel uses some realist elements to ground the reader in the familiar (ie. the hobbits), and then opens up new (or old, depending on your viewpoint) vistas by showing us unfamiliar cultures (or familiar as distant echoes) and using archaic prose. And personally, I think Tolkien&#8217;s work shares more in common with older sources (though he did employ modern techniques when writing LOTR), but that&#8217;s just my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: jrcarney52</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 15:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wouldn&#039;t go so far as to say &quot;realism was king.&quot; You have to remember, as far as the Anglo-American literary-critical community was concerned, &quot;Modernism&quot; was at that point as the only &quot;pure&quot; literary art form. And Modernism isn&#039;t about realism at all. It&#039;s about &quot;formal experimentation,&quot; testing the boundaries of what a literary artist can do with narrative, language, representation, etc.. 

It&#039;s kind of a strange paradox, but Tolkien&#039;s work relies upon a &quot;realist&quot; style derived from 19th century novelistic technique genealogically linked to the novel of manners (e.g. Jane Austen). 

Tolkien&#039;s historically unique innovation is that he (1) establishes a reality principle and then (2)(and here is where Modern fantasy is unique) deviates from it.

Thank about it: first chapters of *The Hobbit* and *LoTR* are extended reflections on very domestic things: food orders, planning a party, etc.. 

Thanks for the though provoking post!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t go so far as to say &#8220;realism was king.&#8221; You have to remember, as far as the Anglo-American literary-critical community was concerned, &#8220;Modernism&#8221; was at that point as the only &#8220;pure&#8221; literary art form. And Modernism isn&#8217;t about realism at all. It&#8217;s about &#8220;formal experimentation,&#8221; testing the boundaries of what a literary artist can do with narrative, language, representation, etc.. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s kind of a strange paradox, but Tolkien&#8217;s work relies upon a &#8220;realist&#8221; style derived from 19th century novelistic technique genealogically linked to the novel of manners (e.g. Jane Austen). </p>
<p>Tolkien&#8217;s historically unique innovation is that he (1) establishes a reality principle and then (2)(and here is where Modern fantasy is unique) deviates from it.</p>
<p>Thank about it: first chapters of *The Hobbit* and *LoTR* are extended reflections on very domestic things: food orders, planning a party, etc.. </p>
<p>Thanks for the though provoking post!</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew David Surridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew David Surridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 09:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good piece, Brian. I found this was a really odd story — frankly, the assessment of Tolkien&#039;s prose made me doubt Osterling&#039;s ear for English. And while I value Tolkien over Frost and  Forster, the stated reason for not giving either man the prize — that they were too old — was shocking, if not disgusting (how does age impair one&#039;s ability to accept a Nobel Prize?). Basically, it doesn&#039;t look good all around.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good piece, Brian. I found this was a really odd story — frankly, the assessment of Tolkien&#8217;s prose made me doubt Osterling&#8217;s ear for English. And while I value Tolkien over Frost and  Forster, the stated reason for not giving either man the prize — that they were too old — was shocking, if not disgusting (how does age impair one&#8217;s ability to accept a Nobel Prize?). Basically, it doesn&#8217;t look good all around.</p>
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		<title>By: David-J-West</title>
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		<dc:creator>David-J-West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 07:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Some who have read the book, or at any rate have reviewed it, have found it boring, absurd, or contemptible; and I have no cause to complain, since I have similar opinions of their works, or of the kinds of writing that they evidently prefer.” ~ J.R.R. Tolkien]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Some who have read the book, or at any rate have reviewed it, have found it boring, absurd, or contemptible; and I have no cause to complain, since I have similar opinions of their works, or of the kinds of writing that they evidently prefer.” ~ J.R.R. Tolkien</p>
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